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		<title>By: Tim Farley</title>
		<link>http://theologicallyspeaking.com/2009/06/29/would-you-leave-your-church-because-of-the-music/#comment-832</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robynne:

I think that you are right.  People may not leave a church that they are already attending because of the music, but I do think that it plays an important role in the decision of visitors as to whether or not they are going to return.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robynne:</p>
<p>I think that you are right.  People may not leave a church that they are already attending because of the music, but I do think that it plays an important role in the decision of visitors as to whether or not they are going to return.</p>
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		<title>By: Robynne</title>
		<link>http://theologicallyspeaking.com/2009/06/29/would-you-leave-your-church-because-of-the-music/#comment-827</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 07:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know that this is almost a month late, but I felt the need to comment. :)

Honestly? One of the main reasons I don&#039;t go to the late service at Pine Grove is because of the music. This last time T.J. preached, I contemplated whether it was worth sitting through the hymns. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with hymns. I just find myself bored and distracted while I&#039;m singing them. Then I feel bad because I should be worshiping and I&#039;m just counting how many lines we have left.
I think that the music does have a big impact on who churches draw in. Element tends to have a younger crowd, partially because we have loud music and like to use distorted electric guitar and heavy drums, and partially because Aaron tends to appeal to younger people. I don&#039;t think I&#039;d leave a church because the music changed, but the music definitely draws me in.
Oh, and it&#039;s not just hymns. I went to a night service at Grace Baptist and they were playing electric guitars and heavy drums and loud music, but it wasn&#039;t that good. The songs were good, they just didn&#039;t sound that good.
I relate a lot to music and I feel the need to be able to get into the music. I don&#039;t want to waste my time thinking about how boring the song is or how the music isn&#039;t very good when I should be worshipping God. That&#039;s my fault that I let it be like that, but it makes it easier when I like the music.

Not to say that I&#039;d go to a church with bad lessons because the music was good or that mediocre music would stop me from attending a church with really good messages. But I definitely take both into account.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this is almost a month late, but I felt the need to comment. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Honestly? One of the main reasons I don&#8217;t go to the late service at Pine Grove is because of the music. This last time T.J. preached, I contemplated whether it was worth sitting through the hymns. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with hymns. I just find myself bored and distracted while I&#8217;m singing them. Then I feel bad because I should be worshiping and I&#8217;m just counting how many lines we have left.<br />
I think that the music does have a big impact on who churches draw in. Element tends to have a younger crowd, partially because we have loud music and like to use distorted electric guitar and heavy drums, and partially because Aaron tends to appeal to younger people. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d leave a church because the music changed, but the music definitely draws me in.<br />
Oh, and it&#8217;s not just hymns. I went to a night service at Grace Baptist and they were playing electric guitars and heavy drums and loud music, but it wasn&#8217;t that good. The songs were good, they just didn&#8217;t sound that good.<br />
I relate a lot to music and I feel the need to be able to get into the music. I don&#8217;t want to waste my time thinking about how boring the song is or how the music isn&#8217;t very good when I should be worshipping God. That&#8217;s my fault that I let it be like that, but it makes it easier when I like the music.</p>
<p>Not to say that I&#8217;d go to a church with bad lessons because the music was good or that mediocre music would stop me from attending a church with really good messages. But I definitely take both into account.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracie</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First let me say that I live in the middle of nowhere.  Churches here tend to be 25 to 120 members.  And the churches with 120 are considered big churches.  There are a couple of churches that have about 300 members but that is as big as they get here.

That being said, a lot of those same churches do not offer much in &#039;programs&#039; to appeal to families.  It is church on Sunday and prayer meeting on Wednesdays.  Again, I am not complaining (although it took A LOT of getting used to coming from a mega-church) it&#039;s just factual. 

So, when we moved here and started &#039;church shopping&#039; so to speak.... if the music did nothing to help our worship and the sermons were just so so, we never went back.  If we visited a church where the music encouraged worship and the sermon was so so, we would visit again to see if the sermon was just an &#039;off&#039; week.  So, although my current church does not have the style of worship music we are used to, it does encourage worship and the sermons are consistantly good.  

Music does REALLY speak to me.   Sometimes the choice of the song will touch me more than the sermon will.  But the same is not true for the rest of my family.  My entire family likes hymns but sang in a Third Day kindda way.  My current church usually sings hymns the old fashioned way with a praise song in the middle somewhere.  The old fashioned hymns are harder for me to get into even though the words are the same.  I am not sure why.  I long for my worship to be the same regardless of the &#039;style&#039; of the music.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First let me say that I live in the middle of nowhere.  Churches here tend to be 25 to 120 members.  And the churches with 120 are considered big churches.  There are a couple of churches that have about 300 members but that is as big as they get here.</p>
<p>That being said, a lot of those same churches do not offer much in &#8216;programs&#8217; to appeal to families.  It is church on Sunday and prayer meeting on Wednesdays.  Again, I am not complaining (although it took A LOT of getting used to coming from a mega-church) it&#8217;s just factual. </p>
<p>So, when we moved here and started &#8216;church shopping&#8217; so to speak&#8230;. if the music did nothing to help our worship and the sermons were just so so, we never went back.  If we visited a church where the music encouraged worship and the sermon was so so, we would visit again to see if the sermon was just an &#8216;off&#8217; week.  So, although my current church does not have the style of worship music we are used to, it does encourage worship and the sermons are consistantly good.  </p>
<p>Music does REALLY speak to me.   Sometimes the choice of the song will touch me more than the sermon will.  But the same is not true for the rest of my family.  My entire family likes hymns but sang in a Third Day kindda way.  My current church usually sings hymns the old fashioned way with a praise song in the middle somewhere.  The old fashioned hymns are harder for me to get into even though the words are the same.  I am not sure why.  I long for my worship to be the same regardless of the &#8216;style&#8217; of the music.</p>
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		<title>By: Worship music and why I (usually) hate it &#171; Amanti</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Worship music and why I (usually) hate it &#171; Amanti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] music and why I (usually) hate&#160;it    On another blog, we were discussing whether anyone would leave a church because of the music. The question was posed to me: Why the distaste for church/worship music? It&#8217;s a good [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then again in the case of nationalist songs in church, it&#039;s more the theology of the music than the music itself that get&#039;s me fired up. The style is irrelevant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then again in the case of nationalist songs in church, it&#8217;s more the theology of the music than the music itself that get&#8217;s me fired up. The style is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
		<link>http://theologicallyspeaking.com/2009/06/29/would-you-leave-your-church-because-of-the-music/#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ewww... yeah. There are few things that I find more repugnant in church than nationalistic songs. In my experience, having such songs always supports an underlying belief that America is God&#039;s chosen country (like the Israelites back in the day), which leads to arrogant elitism. Bleh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ewww&#8230; yeah. There are few things that I find more repugnant in church than nationalistic songs. In my experience, having such songs always supports an underlying belief that America is God&#8217;s chosen country (like the Israelites back in the day), which leads to arrogant elitism. Bleh.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Farley</title>
		<link>http://theologicallyspeaking.com/2009/06/29/would-you-leave-your-church-because-of-the-music/#comment-739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Farley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben:

I have to admit that I have never been a part of a church where the music is dangerously loud.  If it were the case, I would probably leave as well.  I value my hearing.

I want to add that I too am not thrilled with &quot;patriotic&quot; songs done during worship services (or any other song that is not focused on worshipping God for who he is, what he has done, what he is doing, or what he is going to do).  It seems like misplaced reverence to me.  I personally do not go to church to pay honor to our country or anyone/anything other than God.  I think I will post about this now that you have me thinking about it! :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben:</p>
<p>I have to admit that I have never been a part of a church where the music is dangerously loud.  If it were the case, I would probably leave as well.  I value my hearing.</p>
<p>I want to add that I too am not thrilled with &#8220;patriotic&#8221; songs done during worship services (or any other song that is not focused on worshipping God for who he is, what he has done, what he is doing, or what he is going to do).  It seems like misplaced reverence to me.  I personally do not go to church to pay honor to our country or anyone/anything other than God.  I think I will post about this now that you have me thinking about it! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ben A</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would and have left a church b/c of music.

The things that will drive me away are:

1)  The music is too loud -- damagingly so

2)  The music &quot;style&quot; develops a culture of worship for the song. That is to say, they feel emotions based on the song even if the song does not send a clear Christian message or have any intention of worship for Jesus. And so the congregation enjoys singing emotional songs but there is no direction towads Jesus.

example:  Joy to the World (Jeremiah was a Bullfrog) or America the Beautiful

I don&#039;t mean to say that Bach was wrong to make songs for a church tha have no lyrics. I don&#039;t mind art for Jesus or using anything for worship. But it just does not sit right with me when we worship with lyrical songs that have no real direction towards God.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would and have left a church b/c of music.</p>
<p>The things that will drive me away are:</p>
<p>1)  The music is too loud &#8212; damagingly so</p>
<p>2)  The music &#8220;style&#8221; develops a culture of worship for the song. That is to say, they feel emotions based on the song even if the song does not send a clear Christian message or have any intention of worship for Jesus. And so the congregation enjoys singing emotional songs but there is no direction towads Jesus.</p>
<p>example:  Joy to the World (Jeremiah was a Bullfrog) or America the Beautiful</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to say that Bach was wrong to make songs for a church tha have no lyrics. I don&#8217;t mind art for Jesus or using anything for worship. But it just does not sit right with me when we worship with lyrical songs that have no real direction towards God.</p>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Davo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, well first one comment to go along with what Jeff says. I think I agree that music probably doesn&#039;t often have much to do with people leaving the church. However, I feel like I most often hear discussion about style of music when people at church are talking about attracting new people to the church. Perhaps the real question isn&#039;t &quot;would you leave?&quot; based on style of music, but &quot;would you come?&quot;

In regards to my distaste for worship music... I&#039;ll hafta ponder at that a bit. I could stab at the answer, now but probably wouldn&#039;t feel satisfied. I&#039;ll... get back to you on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, well first one comment to go along with what Jeff says. I think I agree that music probably doesn&#8217;t often have much to do with people leaving the church. However, I feel like I most often hear discussion about style of music when people at church are talking about attracting new people to the church. Perhaps the real question isn&#8217;t &#8220;would you leave?&#8221; based on style of music, but &#8220;would you come?&#8221;</p>
<p>In regards to my distaste for worship music&#8230; I&#8217;ll hafta ponder at that a bit. I could stab at the answer, now but probably wouldn&#8217;t feel satisfied. I&#8217;ll&#8230; get back to you on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Farley</title>
		<link>http://theologicallyspeaking.com/2009/06/29/would-you-leave-your-church-because-of-the-music/#comment-736</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Farley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff:

Your comment reflects what the research behind the book says.  People tend to stay at a church or leave a church based upon a sense of belonging to the community.  If a person feels like an important part of the group, he/she will stay and will almost always overlook personal preferences in things like music.

Davo:

You have mentioned that you are not a big fan of the music part of church before.  How come?  I&#039;m curious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff:</p>
<p>Your comment reflects what the research behind the book says.  People tend to stay at a church or leave a church based upon a sense of belonging to the community.  If a person feels like an important part of the group, he/she will stay and will almost always overlook personal preferences in things like music.</p>
<p>Davo:</p>
<p>You have mentioned that you are not a big fan of the music part of church before.  How come?  I&#8217;m curious.</p>
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