It is often argued that gay marriage is simply a matter of justice. It is stated, “Just as it is wrong to discriminate against a person based upon color, gender, class, or ethnicity, it is also wrong to discriminate based upon sexual preference.”
Homosexuals have a valid point in that all people are created in the image of God. There is no exception to this fact. Therefore, all people deserve to be treated with decency and respect as human beings. To put an end to slavery, racial prejudice and the oppression of women is to affirm that all people are fellow image-bearers (Genesis 1:27). Discrimination of this type goes outside of the created design, which informs us that all people are created equal. We should do all we can to abolish discrimination that holds that some classes of people are sub-human.
However, to call it injustice when society refuses to recognize same-sex relationships as equal to heterosexual marriage is invalid. Humans may not claim as a “right” what God has not given them. God specifically created marriage as the union between a man and a woman and to go beyond this is to go beyond the bounds established by God at the creation of the world (Genesis 2:18-25).
In every case, we must determine the Creator’s intention and follow it. In marriage, the created design is the union of a man and a woman.
I know many will read this and say, “What do I care what the Bible says or what you think about the created design?” Well, all I will say is this: If there is no God and there is no created order, then you have no inherent rights, only what society decides to give you. There is no right or wrong, only public opinion. I would much rather go with God’s way.
What I find funny about the queation is not someone asked it but after we look in the Bible and find the answer we still want to know what man says about it like it matters. If a cop pulls you over for speed is there really a question about whether you were speed or how fast you were going, was anybody really in danger of you speed 5,6,7 miles over the speed limit. You are a law breaker, pay the fine, and go and speed no more. The Law is very clear about gay activities ; don’t do it, but if you get caught; ask for forgiveness in Jesus name [ His Blood paid the price], repent and sin no more. The End, see you at the Judgment Seat of the LAMB.
Until Church and State are separate, I guess God can pay my taxes. We have equal souls; any other distinction is very limited thinking.
As previously mentioned on this blog, this is not an issue of separation of Church and State. We live in a democracy where EVERYONE (including Christians, Jews, Muslims, homosexuals, pagans, atheists, etc. etc.) has the right to participate in the political forum. We all have the right to believe whatever we want, regardless of where those beliefs come from. You can not tell people that they can not vote their religious convictions. That would be gross discrimination based on religion. Are you asking for equality for yourself, but are OK with discrimination against another group? That makes no sense.
As for your decision to not pay taxes, I am not an IRS agent and I do not know all of the tax laws, but I am sure that what you are doing is wrong and illegal or everyone would be doing it. Are you going to say it is unfair when they catch you and you go to prison for tax evasion? You know the law. Obey it.
Gay Marriage is not only wrong the two words shouldn’t even be in the same sentence.
Ethnic discrimination is inexcusable. Ethnic issues somehow always seem to show up to obfuscate the real issue of use/misuse of sex.
Discrimination based on sexual conduct is necessary; it is essential to a healthy society. Sex is for procreation in marriage and a strong intimate spousal relationship. Any other use results in pain, suffering, disease, heartache, and even death. Same sex relationships are a misuse of the human design. The alimentary canal is violated as other abuses of the physical anatomy against it’s design.
Can I use this opportunity to plea on behalf of the innocent? Children suffer as a result of selfish sexual misconduct. This alone should scream at us to live righteously.
Broken homes and broken lives as a result of sexual misconduct is not only costly in human suffering but it is costly to a society. Who pays the tab for this fallout? The taxpaying citizen!
God engineered laws into His creation so even if we choose to reject God’s instructions to us given in His Word, The Holy Bible, we will still reap the consequences. There are consequences for violating these “natural laws.” There are not only temporal consequences but eternal ones as well.
To state simply: Live righteously or die; it’s nature.
If it weren’t for the influence of those who hold to the Christian ideals for society, America would be overrun by a tidal wave of filth and immorality and brokenness and confusion unimaginable especially to our youth, from these who fight with a passionate intensity against all that is good and decent.
Gay perversion of marriage is dead wrong for any society.
Like the blogger, here, I’m also a graduate of Grand Rapids Baptist Seminary (MDiv). Unlike him, I’m gay. In 1997 I partnered with my gay Christiaon partner – in 2008 we were married in California. Together 14 years this coming Oct. The most wonderful thing in this world is to be coupled with a partner that answers to who and what we are. God’s gift to me is my partner, also a Christian and a graduate from Columbia Bible College. I think what is lacking in churches like GARB churches, is the willingness to really speak to the people they talk about. There is a vast, vast gap between what Christian leaders say and what they’ve actually come to know first hand about people “like me.” The evangelical church is out of touch here in this department as much as the Southern Baptists were over the issue of slavery. Evangelicals are too invested in saving the culture that they cannot see the trees for the forest. With time they will see. It is only a matter of time before evangelicals will hold their head in shame for the oppression they brought upon the gay community.
You wrote: “The evangelical church is out of touch here in this department as much as the Southern Baptists were over the issue of slavery. Evangelicals are too invested in saving the culture that they cannot see the trees for the forest. With time they will see. It is only a matter of time before evangelicals will hold their head in shame for the oppression they brought upon the gay community.”
The issues of slavery and homosexuality are different. Many of the Christians who defended slavery in the past did so because there was a benefit to owning slaves that they did not want to give up. It was in their personal interest to defend slavery. Christians who oppose homosexuality are not doing so becuse there is some inherent personal benefit in doing so. It would be much easier for all involved to say it is okay. However, there is a conviction among many that it is contrary to the word of God.
Also, you forget to mention that many Christians were instrumental in the abolishment of slavery, so I do not know many evangelicals who hold their head in shame over the subject (although there probably are, and should be, some).
First off, I’m appalled by the misinformation provided by jonyork. “Any other use results in pain, suffering, disease, heartache, and even death.” Research overwhelmingly indicate the opposite. Furthermore, I’ve witnessed friends come out of the closet. When I think about their live pre- and post-coming out, it is there closeted lives that were characterized by pain, suffering and heartache, not the other way around. Additionally, if disease and death are a part of God’s judgment for being gay, then lesbians must be blessed by God, as they have the lower rates infection than even heterosexual individuals.
I’ve gotta agree with Steve on this one. I think that reasonably within the next two decades, the majority of Christians–evangelical or otherwise–will look upon those who condemn homosexuality with similar sentiments that most of us feel towards Christians today who believe that the white race is superior and that we ought to have segregation.
Speculations about the future aside, I also have to say that I think that Christians who oppose homosexuality do receive personal benefit from society’s preference for heterosexuality. Not only that, but I would argue that heterosexuals stand to benefit from posturing an open and accepting stance towards those of different orientations. That has been my experience, at least.
Davo: You wrote, “I also have to say that I think that Christians who oppose homosexuality do receive personal benefit from society’s preference for heterosexuality.”
Can you explain what you mean? What is the personal benefit?